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Thanks for the reminder. I will look at how to do a podcast on this and how we arrived in Toronto. Yes, we hope people like TCO2 and the new content. It is an entirely new way to teach case interview preparation.
1. Sure. Quick reminder: In our discussion comments on this OP-DOC : “Patrick : I would like to hear a podcast on overcoming struggles, however. As I meet many people with various experiences who want to enter the business world, I would like to hear a take on overcoming difficulty and leveraging this.” “Michael: I think you need to decide if the past negative experience defines you or does not. If it does, then it needs to be addressed.
I will think about doing a podcast about this.”
2. I have listened to nearly 100 podcasts here and have not heard a specific discussion.
Perhaps it was an older podcast or buried away. In that case, it might be nice to hear your reflection a few more years down the line in a specific podcast. An additional point on why you are based in Toronto could add some new depth (or breadth).”
P.S. I am sure some outside of FC would find this strange, but I look forward to new content on this program as much as I anticipate a new feature film. Even if I get an offer next month, I will almost certainly watch TCO2 out of interest.
Can you remind me which podcast you refer to about struggles?
I have discussed starting Firmsconsulting in many other podcasts but it may be worthwhile to revisit the discussion again since there are useful and new ways to describe the reasoning.
Thank you for your response, I just saw it. I am aware you are busy polishing off TCO2, but I would look forward to that podcast on overcoming struggles, if it is appropriate.
I am currently in a program with students younger than myself, and every time I get a positive remark about my attitude, ability, or perspective, I immediately get a flash of the key struggles that have defined me.
It is always encouraging to find similar traits in people who have not gone through intense times, either internally or due to life circumstances, but these instances are far more rare.
So, whenever someone seems impressed by something I have said or done, the only response I could have is “whatever happens in life, just remember to learn from it – for yourself or for those around you.”
I take pride in helping anyone I can through any situation, even in a small way, if there is something genuine in their intentions.
This brings me to a question I have been wondering since I read my first post on here:
What drove you to start Firmsconsulting?
That is right Gudipati – our experiences define us – for better or worse.
Not sure if there any sci-fi fans here, but there is a Star Trek TNG episode called Tapestry that I feel is strangely appropriate. It is centered around the captain played by Patrick Stewart. As he dies (this is sci-fi, remember), he is given a chance to go back to his past and change his impulsive and brash youth as a cadet (which got him stabbed and grievously wounded) into something more ‘mature and responsible’. However, that alteration modifies the trajectory of this life, transforming the high achiever into someone leading a mediocre life. Echoing the description with
This was a really nicely shot video – the visuals and soundtrack are really well done. And my admiration and kudos to Alona.
VRM – your comments are valid, though there are no right answers.
By doing something better with your life it is entirely possible that affords your children opportunities and exposure they never would have had.
The key is to ensure the benefit flow through to them.
My following comments might only apply to a subset, especially young parents or those with family commitments.
This video sends quite a few messages. The struggle, and Alona’ will to overcome were both obvious and commendable, but it drove completely different thoughts in my mind. Thoughts when Alona talks about how she felt that the world ignored her, including her parents as they were busy earning the daily bread and dealing with her problems. Additionally, drugs was really not the problem but something inside her was broken, probably her self image, esteem etc. Point being, as a parent, an executive in a firm and as a prospective candidate for management consulting, it is extremely important for us to understand that consulting (and the arduous lifestyle) is not be all and end all of our lives.
In my opinion, it is crucial to realize that consulting could be very disruptive to one’ lifestyle especially those with a young family. Again, these are my ideas, and opinions, as in we in the spirit of solving tougher problems, helping clients, and climbing up the ladder of greatness might actually be ignoring someone very close to ourselves. Someone, who might be looking for our support, our presence, and our guidance to craft their lives. I don’t intend to be prescriptive but we should constantly introspect the purpose of making such changes and question the clarity of that purpose too. The aforementioned does not mean that the intended audience change course and away from management consulting, but it means that we constantly question ourselves, our goals, and our ability to withstand the changes we intend to make. Finally, how it might affect someone else in the bargain. I feel as a parent that if I am more successful than my children, then I think I can take it that I’ve lost the game.
Apologize, if I spoke out of turn, but I think it was important to surface this message.
Your comments are insightful. At its core, Alona reactions and mechanism for the reaction is no different than that from anyone else. She was scared, made some bad choices and continued down that path because she did not know better.
I think it is the same for everyone else. For example, a bright kid in high school or university may very well end up down a weaker path if they are not shown/told what is possible. The scary thing is that very little separates us from these better/worse decisions.
Our other point for showing these striking films is to say “it is okay to make a mistake.”
We beat ourselves up about it too much. You make a mistake, you learn and you move on. Do not beat yourself up about it. My rule is simple: “a personal decision is always right.”
My hope is people will feel better about their personal choices, after seeing this movie, and remain inspired to continue pushing through.
I really feel strongly to comment on this because right now I’m thinking from heart that I rarely used for thinking because It’s better at circulating blood in my body. I think, Alona faced two only possible changes in life- Changes she had no control and changes she had some control.
She had no control over the change when she moved to Israel with her parents. She was shocked, became uncomfortable, and felt terrified to have received so much unwanted attention because this is something she never choose for herself or why life had put her at that place. Is it something similar to a consultant’s feelings that he/she has while starring at client’s problem for the first time and getting noticed by everyone in the room. I’ll think more about that.
I believe, she had control over the situation where she could have avoided started drinking and eventually addicted to drugs but may be she didn’t understand the reasons why she shouldn’t become addicted. Is that something related to “Benefit realization framework” whereby if we don’t understand something, we can’t control it, and eventually can’t improve it.
Thank you for these comments. I would urge to comment more on the documentary if you find anything to discuss.
There are two separate issues here. The first is about actually advising people who have difficult areas in their background. Most mentors tend to ignore these defining gaps and pretend they do no exist. That is a terrible way to help someone since the mentor is ignoring the very thing which needs to be addressed.
Second, I think you need to decide if the past negative experience defines you or does not. If it does, then it needs to be addressed.
I will think about doing a podcast about this.
I won’t comment too much right here because I wouldn’t want to dilute it’s purpose.
I would like to hear a podcast on overcoming struggles, however. As I meet many people with various experiences who want to enter the business world, I would like to hear a take on overcoming difficulty and leveraging this.
There tends to be caution around being frank with people who have had struggles in their background, with nobody wanting to tell them to hide it, presumably to avoid making them “feel bad” about it. The other reason is to have them focus on the future. The issue does come up, however, if there is an impact on their professional or academic history.
In one of the quizzes it is advised that someone who was an alcoholic not discuss this topic.
If you had to give one relatively brief piece of advice to someone who brings up the question of addressing their past in an interview or in front of a client, what would that be?
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